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Ok I want to ask a technical question, no politics.

Is is true that a illegal immigrant with no criminal records has a close to zero chance of being deported? If I buy a house in California, set up my own LLC, mind my own business, then there is practically zero chance of me getting deported?

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Posted by FUЯ ION
Posted on 11/29/2016 12:26 PM
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Well, you’d have to stay under the radar presumably. And buying a house and setting up a LLC is not a good way to do that since you have to prove you have a taxpayer ID to do both….So yes, I assume that you could operate under the radar for a very long time with no problem. But it would not be easy to maintain without substantial inconveniences….

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Cullen Roche Posted by Cullen Roche
Answered on 12/01/2016 12:10 PM
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    If I understand correctly, all “undocumented” immigrants must register for the selective service (draft) if they are male and have reached the age of 18. Additionally, it seems that “most” undocumented immigrants work and pay at least some taxes…. I can’t say how this necessarily fits with the question, but it appears that “most” are on the radar to some extent already. Immigrants are barred from participating in the public school system and subject to immediate deportation if they ignore the selective service signup requirement.

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    Posted by Randy
    Answered on 12/01/2016 5:06 PM
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      You don’t need a SSN to deal with the bureaucratic busywork system, just a ITIN which the IRS happily gives out to all that apply. I would guesstimate that the only real consequence of being an illegal alien is you won’t be able to get any state or Federal welfare benefits (except restricted scope Medicaid in a very few ultra liberal states) and not legally be able to drive in the states that don’t offer licenses (and soon maybe not even a legal job if employers actually bother to use eVerify under a Trump administration). But if you’re going to be “undocumented”, then you’re going to be in the shadow economy and probably can’t ruffle feathers too much lest you draw unwanted attention to your status, i.e. you’re likely to be a poor lower class, vegetable/fruit picker or butcher line cutter from Mexico or Central America. You can’t even dignify that as working class because they’re paid so poorly, below minimum wage. The smarter you are, the more your income should proportionately rise as you have more financial intelligence. The other side of this kind of “undocumented” coin is there are smart and/or rich people out there that never file and never pay any income taxes and will never worry about the IRS.

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      Posted by MachineGhost
      Answered on 12/03/2016 12:43 AM
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        P.S. States are not in legal charge of deportation, only the Feds at ICE are. So its relatively easy to minimize your interaction with them so they don’t discover your “undocumented” status and deport you. If you have an expired visa, there’s a paper trail. If you came in on a green card that is now expired, there’s a paper trail. But if you successfully snuck in over the border… you’re a ghost for all practical purposes.

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        Posted by MachineGhost
        Answered on 12/03/2016 12:49 AM
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          Its because economics is a social science and not a physical science. And anything social inevitably involves insanity, delusions of grandeur and violence-cum-politics. What can you do? Treating economics as a physical science using maths and econometrics as justification isn’t the right way to convey the benefits of economic’s “moral principles” in terms that ordinary people can relate to. Take a less from Freakonomics.

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          Posted by MachineGhost
          Answered on 12/03/2016 1:01 AM
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            Whoops, somehow that got posted to the wrong thread. My apologies!

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            Posted by MachineGhost
            Answered on 12/03/2016 1:02 AM
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              Well, Trump is going to deport all the criminal illegals, and then “make a determination as to the rest”. Many people are interpreting this as a path to citizenship for ~9 million illegals.

              Considering that the previous amnesty was actually passed by a republican Reagan. I actually think that Trump might pass a “one time only, and this is the last time” amnesty.

              If you think about it, the system is extremely rigged against legal immigrantion. H1Bs are extremely hard to get, and EB5 requires $0.5M and a very substantial risk of total loss.

              Also, Reagan “legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982”. What about those people who were in USA legally on non-dual intent visas? They got nothing !!!

              If Trump is going to pass amnesty, I better jump onto the bandwagon before it’s too late !!!

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              Posted by FUЯ ION
              Answered on 12/10/2016 9:37 PM
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                If I were to enter USA legally on a H1B1 or E2 visa, both of which require non immigration intent, and then Trump passes amnesty in 2022, for illegals only, imagine how sad it would be for people like me !!!

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                Posted by FUЯ ION
                Answered on 12/10/2016 9:45 PM
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